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22 March 2009 @ 08:53 pm
Just checking in with Obama-san!  
Obama, you are awesome!! :D
Your sexual orientation should not determine your rights, anywhere in the world. (Listen up, JAPAN!!)
 
 
 
Aiaiwritingfic on March 22nd, 2009 12:08 pm (UTC)
It's great that the USA signed on to that UN convention, but I don't think it's fair to say "Listen up, Japan" in this context. I quote from that same article you linked to: It was endorsed by all 27 European Union members as well as Japan, Australia and Mexico. Which means Japan signed WAY before the USA did. In other words: just because the US has endorsed the statement, doesn't exactly mean it's going to make it into US law anytime soon. ^_^;

Edited at 2009-03-22 12:13 pm (UTC)
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on March 22nd, 2009 12:19 pm (UTC)
It's true that Japan endorsed it earlier, but you would think that in all of that time, they would have put some laws into effect concerning it. Japan is incredibly behind when it comes to anti-discrimination laws (as in there aren't any). They need to revamp, and I hope that someone brings down the pressure on them.
Aiaiwritingfic on March 22nd, 2009 12:23 pm (UTC)
In the same vein, though, I wonder how long it will take America to actually pass laws re: legalizing homosexuality. Good luck--perhaps if America does so, others will follow suit.
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on March 22nd, 2009 12:33 pm (UTC)
I believe so, too. America needs to set a good example, and I think that eventually the world would follow, in this case.

It would be nice if it was even an issue in Japan. It doesn't seem to get any press at all. It's hard to see discrimination every day, and not be able to do anything about it.
Aiaiwritingfic on March 22nd, 2009 12:38 pm (UTC)
I suspect expecting rapid change in a country this conservative is possibly too much to hope for, but who knows? When Japan makes up its mind, it really does make up its mind. After all, they have workplace equality on paper, but see where that got me.
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on March 22nd, 2009 01:41 pm (UTC)
That's true. Actually, this reminds me of a movie that I saw yesterday. It was called "Sour Strawberries". If you can find a copy, you should definitely check it out. Afterwards there was a discussion with Aruto Debito about foreigner's rights in Japan. It was really informative!
Aiaiwritingfic on March 22nd, 2009 01:44 pm (UTC)
Sounds interesting--if I come across it I'll have a look. ^_^
Wandering Tomniten on March 23rd, 2009 11:24 am (UTC)
Is homosexuality still illegal in some/all parts of the US?
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on March 23rd, 2009 11:27 am (UTC)
It depends on your views. In some parts of the country, sodomy is illegal, which although it deals with regular sex as well as gay sex, it still does apply. There are other similar laws. But the real issue is that gay marriage still isn't endorsed at a federal level, and at all but a select few city/state levels. It's quite sad, I think.
Wandering Tomniten on March 23rd, 2009 12:21 pm (UTC)
I remember watching a show that discussed the use of civil unions in France for gay/lesbian couples and that it seemed to be working there.

For the more puritanical US (and to much the same extent Australia) marriage appears to be a fairly emotionally charged word that I'm both surprised and not that the civil union approach doesn't really seem to have been considered.
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on March 23rd, 2009 12:28 pm (UTC)
On the contrary, civil union for gay couples is what Obama endorsed during his campaign, and it's been made into law in a few parts of the country. While it's still not popular, it's somewhat more accepted than marriage is.

However, I am of the belief that separate is not equal. So the only options that I would consider fair are:
1) Gay couples are given the right of marriage, including using the word "marriage" and not "civil union".
2) Marriage between heterosexual couples is abolished, and both gay and straight couples can have civil unions but not be called "marriage" in the law (in other words, use the same word to describe the process.)
3) Again, "marriage" is abolished as a term, and both gay and straight couples are given a new right that is called something completely different from "marriage" or "civil union".

I think that the easiest and the most socially acceptable of the three would be the first option. In the end, the point is that everyone is equal, both in rights and in words.
Wandering Tomniten on March 23rd, 2009 12:52 pm (UTC)
I agree with you, however it's one of those things like racism that will take a while to change. Supposedly young people in general just 'get it' and to them it's a non-issue. The problem is the hard-minded older people. Just have to keep fighting the good fight/waving the flag against stuff like prop 8.

But of course that's the US/Australia (in Sydney there's an annual Gay Mardi Gras that's televised every year). With people in Japan so concerned about not upsetting the status quo, there's little chance that views will actually change in the wider community to any great degree.
Wandering Tomniten on March 23rd, 2009 11:27 am (UTC)
Just FYI, but here's an article that shows up the problems that glbt ppl still have in Japan:

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fd20090308pb.html
Chiakichiaki777 on March 23rd, 2009 01:40 am (UTC)
Now if he'll look over to California and help us out on the whole marriage thing....