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20 August 2007 @ 05:05 pm
I hate airlines.. Not planes, just airlines.  
I'd heard about No.1 Travel's high taxes before, but not like this.. The prices that they list on the website for the days that I want to go to America are just under $500. But then I call them and they tell me taxes are an additional $330. I don't have that kind of money... I don't think I'll be able to afford it, as I only have $500 to spare total. I'd expected around $50 extra, like most places, max, in taxes.. Guess I was wrong. I can't find anything for less than the mid-$800s range, at all, and most are well above $1000.

Does anyone know where to get around-trip  ticket from Narita to Seattle for around $500?
Momokoxelloss_poo on August 20th, 2007 09:34 am (UTC)
What dates were you looking for?
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on August 20th, 2007 10:10 am (UTC)
I'm looking for a departure date of 9/21 towards Seattle, and Around 10/8 for the return to Tokyo.
Momokoxelloss_poo on August 20th, 2007 10:35 am (UTC)
Do you have to leave on a Friday? It may be cheaper looking to leave on a Thursday...
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on August 22nd, 2007 05:20 am (UTC)
Thanks Sarah!! Unfortunately I work on that Thursday, so I can't leave until the next day. But looking at other travel sites, for some reason leaving on that specific Friday was the cheapest day of the month...

I'm still searching. There must be some kind of great deal out there somewhere!
Momokoxelloss_poo on August 20th, 2007 10:51 am (UTC)
$766+86(tax) on http://www.airlineconsolidator.com/reservations.html

764.94 Euros (Total, including taxes) on http://www.edreams.com/

Still searching...
Momokoxelloss_poo on August 20th, 2007 11:04 am (UTC)
Those were the best I could find. Everything else was at least $800 plus tax (which ranged from $60 to $300).

I read that this place: http://www.etn.nl/ would get back to you kn 24-48 hours about prices... I don't know how good those prices would be, but they need your email to do it... so I figured if you wanted to look there, you could do it yourself. :)
Kira_Shadowkira_shadow on August 20th, 2007 09:47 am (UTC)
Kira_Shadowkira_shadow on August 20th, 2007 09:50 am (UTC)
P.S.: Airport taxes are a b**** you don't want to know how high the taxes were that I had to pay for my trip to Japan... --"
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on August 20th, 2007 10:15 am (UTC)
I'm looking for a departure date of 9/21 towards Seattle, and Around 10/8 for the return to Tokyo.

I was all excited on the first link, until I realized that they meant 580 British Pounds. ;_; (Why can't it have been dollars?) The other link doesn't work for departing from outside of America..

Do you have any other sites? I really want to be able to go..
Kira_Shadowkira_shadow on August 20th, 2007 01:13 pm (UTC)

should work for Japan?
am looking it up right now...

the cheapest I'm getting is I think 59,000 Yen, which is about 494US$?
Kira_Shadowkira_shadow on August 20th, 2007 01:16 pm (UTC)
otherwise, you can go there in person
you might get even better prices there

STA Travel

7th Floor Nukariya Building
1-16-20 Minami-Ikebukuro

Tel: +81 (0)3 5391 2922 (Sales)
Fax: +81 (0)3 5391 2273 (Sales)
Email: wp@statravel.co.jp

(lucky their only japan branch is in Tokyo?)
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on August 20th, 2007 09:05 pm (UTC)
Their website doesn't seem to work for me (and I'm not a student too..). It only lets me select from within Asia, not from Asia to America.. How did you get the other menu? For that price, I could definitely go!!
catsluvdmb on August 20th, 2007 10:39 am (UTC)
No. 1 Travel is total bullshit. In the States they would probably get busted for false advertising.

Unfortunately SEA is a VERY expensive airport to fly through. It's actually cheaper to fly through YVR or even PDX a lot of the time. Also keep in mind that Japanese air taxes are pretty pricey.

Cheapest ticket I found for SEA was $928 9/21 - 10/8
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on August 20th, 2007 09:01 pm (UTC)
PDX is Portland, right? Have you seen any cheap tickets for flying through Portland?
catsluvdmb on August 21st, 2007 01:18 am (UTC)
Cheapest I've seen has still be in the $800 range.

This short notice and on the tail end of summer it's going to be next to impossible to find a ticket for $500. You might even have a better chance if you wait until after the kids are back in school, but still slim. Only time I have ever seen tickets to America that cheap has been during the bottom of travel season.
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on August 22nd, 2007 05:13 am (UTC)
Really? But summer is far over and the kids have been in school almost a month when I go.. I was told actually that the end of September is one of the cheapest months to fly because it's just after vacation is over and the demand isn't high at all..

Still looking!
catsluvdmb on August 23rd, 2007 12:42 am (UTC)
Yeah, but you're trying to buy them during summer vacation. I know that doesn't make sense, trust me, it doesn't make sense to me either. But because people are still in summer vacation mentality, the airlines can kind of get away with pricing their tickets higher. You will usually see a dip in ticket prices after the first weekend in September. That said, because you're flying in September, that might only equal a $50-100 difference.

I worked in an office that had to book plane tickets all the time. The airlines have some weird pricing schemes but apparently they work for them :/
taishitaishi on August 20th, 2007 03:18 pm (UTC)
After weeks of searching the cheapest I could find on our trip was $800 when we came to visit in 2005.

I had to buy two, so I was really hoping they would be cheaper.
AMYLEET: eyelinerfuzzychan on August 20th, 2007 06:03 pm (UTC)
My flight was SeaTac to Narita to Fukuoka and it was around $1200... D:
I hate how expensive travel is... but! If you happen to make it over here (I hope you do) and have a free day in Seattle, we could hang out :DDD
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on August 22nd, 2007 05:17 am (UTC)
So expensive... x.x I'm not made of money, and it really sucks when plane tickets are so much they cost pretty much all you have (in that case I'd have none left to go shopping, which I seriously need!)
AMYLEET: eyelinerfuzzychan on August 22nd, 2007 05:26 am (UTC)
Yeah I know what you mean... if you spend the majority of your money on the plane ticket, you can't really spend much overseas >_>; and it's like "ohh... okay what do I do now" kinda feeling.

But but if you ever do plan a trip to Seattle be sure and tell me because we could go shopping together :D or meet up or whatnot... it's so fun meeting internet people that I've known for a while in person
(Anonymous) on August 20th, 2007 09:30 pm (UTC)
Some more tidbits
Went to http://www.statravel.co.jp/english/travel/air/select.html - found
a flight from NRT (Narita) to LAX for US$531 / Y61,000 via Northwest Airlines. I'd estimate about $80 for taxes just to be safe. You have to depart the US on 10/7 though to arrive on 10/8.

Then via Expedia.com, found a round trip flight from LAX to SEA for $217 (all taxes/fees included). Doing a little research, the NWA flights depart NRT around 3-4pm and arrive around 10am same day. There are a ton of flights from LAX to SEA, so I chose a 2pm departure (they had a 7:45pm departure, but who wants to hang out in LAX for close to 12 hours?). The return flight LEAVES LAX at 1pm, so any return flight you choose just has to arrive well in advance before 1pm. I chose a 7:10am departure from SEA to LAX.

Basically the times I chose left you able to go down to baggage claim, get your bags, check them in AGAIN to the next flight and off you go. You HAVE to do this because you're not getting a connecting flight via the airline.

Total amount was approximately US $828.

Ironically, while the price was the same to fly in to San Francisco as it was to LAX, it was actually MORE expensive to fly from SFO to Seattle.

You can also get a NWA flight via Expedia (again, all taxes/fees included) for $923 direct to Seattle, but that's out of your price range.

Yes, I was bored at work.

Paul G.
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on August 22nd, 2007 05:19 am (UTC)
Re: Some more tidbits
Thanks Paul! It's still out of my price range, but I'm trying to find some kind of solution... I wish that there was an easier/cheaper way than flying!
bakatabibito on August 21st, 2007 06:25 am (UTC)
Just got word from your friend Sugaraxie on your current quest for a cheap ticket to Seattle and I just want to say...welcome to the frustrating world of taxes, surcharges and other fun discrepancies! Originally I did suggest to her No. 1 Travel as well as Hittravel but forgot about the aforementioned discrepancies (it's been a year since I left Japan <<;; )

Unfortunately finding a fare @ around $500 all-in (including surcharges) can be difficult and even more-so with a required fixed date but there are the *occasional* jewels here and there... It is somewhat harder to find it in a market such as Seattle, compared to Los Angeles and San Francisco where you have 4-7 airlines providing nonstop flights to Narita, and even with that, a $500 a/i ticket is a gift from above! Though the mid-$800s isn't in your range, it unfortunately might be as low as it could get. The last time I've seen such a bargain to Japan was when United commemorated the opening of the new Centrair Int'l Airport in Nagoya back in '05 where they had the airfare+taxes at $350-600! Heck, Northwest and American followed w/ fares at around the higher end of that range. Those were the days...:(

A couple suggestions are the following though it isn't always guaranteed that it'll succeed:
1) Is it possible to look into flying to maybe Vancouver or Portland? Occasionally there could be some deals in other cities, though of course it'll have to be cheap enough to not be diminished by getting to and from those cities.
2) You might have to be more flexible with your dates if you want to increase the chances of a lower fare. Frustrating, I know. :(

Those are the 3 I could think of but I do have more. I'll ask my friends back in Sapporo for suggestions as I've been completely out of touch w/ airfares originating in Japan. Since I occasionally spend time devoted on random airfare quotes to random destinations (you never know when you might find a flight from LA to NYC for just $120 ;), I'll make sure to keep an eye out for any deals from Narita.

Good luck in your search!
Hi-chan (火ちゃん)hinoai on August 22nd, 2007 05:15 am (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestions. ^^

I've actually looked into flying into Portland (Vancouver is impossible) since that's my parent's preferred destination in any case, but it seems that it's far more expensive than Seattle every time. It's also not as popular so there aren't as many flights in general.

I actually chose dates from a chart looking for which day would be the absolute cheapest. I was lucky since it coincided with the first day of my vacation. I think that's the cheapest that I'm going to get, date-wise. The other dates around that area are far more expensive for some reason.
bakatabibito on August 22nd, 2007 05:53 am (UTC)
Touché on Portland (forgot that Northwest is the only airline serving the Trans-Pacific market, still stuck in the days when Delta used it as a gateway to Asia ;)) though I've been able to score some pretty nice deals on the Tokyo-Portland route, though that's for up front. <<;;

Anyhow, what was the cheapest you were able to get so far? ^^;;